Budget crisis in the plan

Conservatives plotted to cripple health law

Posted: October 6, 2013 at 6:10 a.m.

Shortly after President Barack Obama started his second term, a loose-knit coalition of conservative activists led by former Attorney General Edwin Meese III gathered in the capital to plot strategy. Their push to repeal Obama’s health-care law was going nowhere, and they desperately needed a new plan.

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this makes sense as it must have taken so much money to spread a lie so successfully. to tell folks that it is a bad thing to have health care. when the truth was it was helping millions and also lowering the cost.
this lie told over and over again with those secret clandestine meetings to stop the Obama health care act. bribery and threats to those republicans
not in agreement is not the democratic way.
it appears that the speaker of the house is stopping the house from voting! as oops they
might actually pass the clean bill and get the government started again!!! oh no.. they say they
do not have the votes but they actually do.
it is hindering the democracy of our nation to
not allow the vote to go on.
instead they want secret back room "negotiating"
to decide the outcome!!?
they should all be in jail who are holding our country in hostage.

Posted by: ladyLiberty

October 6, 2013 at 2:52 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Lady Liberty,



Posted by: rummy

October 6, 2013 at 3:19 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Again my list of 7 lines of evidence showing who planned and created this crisis:

1) They ran on shutting the government down:
"Georgia Congressman Lynn Westmoreland campaigned during the height of the Tea Party frenzy in 2010:
“We need to make sure you are going to be with us when we shut down the government, which we will do if we win the majority this year,” Rep. Lynn Westmoreland, September 2010.
Elected leaders can’t campaign on a promise to shut down the government in their radical, right-wing home districts and then try to place the blame on anyone else."

2) Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) sharply criticized his fellow House Republicans saying it's "moronic" for them to let the government shut down over their opposition to Obamacare and calling them "lemmings with suicide vests." “They have to be more than just a lemming," he said. "Because jumping to your death is not enough."

3) "Republicans have wanted a government shutdown since before President Obama took office, Michele Bachmann said she was “very excited” about the prospect and “It’s exactly what we wanted, and we got it.” http://tinyurl.com/nhnxsn6

4) "We're not going to be disrespected," conservative Rep. Marlin Stutzman, R-Ind., added. "We have to get something out of this. And I don't know what that even is." http://tinyurl.com/mpzoalx

5) "House Republican Admits To Donors: GOP Had To Shut Down The Government To Please The Tea Party"
“Listen,” Walden told them, “We have to do this because of the Tea Party. If we don’t, these guys are going to get primaried and they are going to lose their primary.” http://tinyurl.com/o5ckjdr

6) Steve Womack admitted this is a republican caused "hostage" situation and that it was a "political suicide" strategy that may give the house to the Demos. He said in his congressional blog in September:
"Even though this law is a train wreck, attaching legislation such as H.R. 2682 to a continuing resolution (CR) is not the way to go about dismantling the law. "Why? "Because doing so would require the House to take hostage the rest of the government and require us to shoot it." http://womack.house.gov/news/document...

7) This newspaper reported his August prediction that this would be a suicide strategy for the republicans:
"[Steve Womack] fended off the idea the GOP should force a government shutdown unless there was agreement to "defund" Obamacare.
Doing that, he said, would amount to "political suicide" for Republicans that could lead voters to return control of both houses of Congress to the Democrats." http://tinyurl.com/q7pbh2w

This is a republican strategy to take a last, futile swing at the ACA. It's not going to work. But it may accomplish this:
"Polls Say Republican Party Could Lose the House"
“...poll results make clear that if the election were held today, such a pickup would be well within reach.” http://tinyurl.com/qeqeqxe

Posted by: fayfreethinker

October 6, 2013 at 4:06 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

>>The billionaire Koch brothers, Charles and David,have been deeply involved with financing the overall effort. ....

And there you have it. They can drag along thousands of useful idiots. A tiny minority running the nation.

Posted by: cdawg

October 6, 2013 at 5:07 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

>>Heritage Action, which has trained 6,000 people it calls “sentinels” around the country, sent them to town-hall meetings and other events to confront their elected representatives. Its “Defund Obamacare Town Hall Tour,” which began in Fayetteville on Aug. 19 and ended 10 dayslater in Wilmington, Del., drew hundreds at every stop.<<

This is a convenient lie. The meeting in Fayetteville was closed to public and reporters. I can only suppose all the others were too.

Posted by: cdawg

October 6, 2013 at 5:25 p.m. ( | suggest removal )