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DEADLY FORCE: Police Shooting Kills Woman

AUTHORITIES: OFFICER FIRED SERVICE WEAPON AFTER BEING APPROACHED WITH KNIFE

Posted: August 2, 2011 at 5:21 a.m.
Updated: August 2, 2011 at 10:43 a.m.

A Rogers Police investigator interviews witnesses Monday at the Superstop on Eighth Street and New Hope Road after a police officer was involved in a shooting there.

A Rogers police officer shot and killed a woman authorities said attempted to attack officers responding to a 911 call Monday morning at a convenience store.

Editor's note

The Dec. 2, 2009 shooting was omitted from the original publication of this story and has since been added.

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Rogers Police Department investigators gather evidence outside the Shell Superstop located at South Eighth Street and New Hop... (By: Spencer Tirey)

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Woman Threatened Officers Before Shooting

I guess i'd like to know more about this situation that made it necessary to shoot rather than just slapping her silly. Aren't the police in Rogers taught how to disarm instead of kill? Better a broken arm than dead .

Posted by: Oldearkie

August 2, 2011 at 8:55 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

arkie.....you watch to much tv.

Posted by: DNC

August 2, 2011 at 9:49 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

What happened to them useing their stun guns? I mean it was a WOMAN with a knife. Rogers P.O. I don't think that it was handled in the correct way.

Posted by: HELLOS

August 2, 2011 at 10:08 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

If this distraugh girl had not encountered the Rogers PD likely no one else would have been hurt and she would not be dead. People don't respect cops anymore, subjects attack and shoot cops more frequently and faster than ever. They know cops are killers, they know the slightest mistake and your dead. Cops need better training. They need to be trained to stop killing citizens. You have rights in this country, except when a cop is involved. The penalty for waving a knife at someone, even cutting them isn't DEATH. COPS, STOP KILLING

Posted by: tkt07709190938

August 2, 2011 at 10:25 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

This shooting may have been truly justified -- and probably was -- but when the police tell the witnesses not to talk to anyone it makes it look like a cover up.

Posted by: Afranius

August 2, 2011 at 10:26 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Wow lets get this straight, 1 woman with knife vs 1 cop armed with night stick, pepper spray , taser, oh and a .40 cal glock. hmmmm. Rogers Finest at its best ! Almost most, and they silence the witnesses . Time for the new mayor to do his job!!!

Posted by: justiceforall

August 2, 2011 at 10:30 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

No one here knows the fact but to read these posts I would come to the understanding that, the girl was a sweetie and, the cops were cold blooded killers. I will say that I am damn glad we have police.

Posted by: thegees1989

August 2, 2011 at 10:59 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

The video should tell the tale here. And just because it was "justifiable" under the law doesn't make it good police work. Like holtjeep said. Just seems like taking a slash or two on the arms might be part of the job if that's what it took to disarm this lady rather than shooting her.

Hi John.

Posted by: Amicus

August 2, 2011 at 11:53 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Well it's not part of their job to get attacked, disabled, cut or killed by some perp swinging a knife, they identify themselves and do their best to talk the perp into putting down the weapon. You don't pull out your pepper spray or teaser and confront some one with a deadly weapon. During and attack an officer has mil-a-seconds to respond but their actions will be gone over and over by the investigators. I'm sorry about the woman but the officer did his job.

Posted by: wjboydiii

August 2, 2011 at 12:21 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Last month CNN report a MAN with a sword was taken down with a taser?? wjboydiii U recon he was meaning to pull his gun and by sheer accident he pulled his taser by mistake? Lucky for the perp!

Posted by: justiceforall

August 2, 2011 at 1:23 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

One woman with a knife, trying to kill a cop, hmm, what training does the officer have in knife fighting? Since none of you know, many of you sound foolsih. Pepper spray, baton, taser, was it used first? You don't know because the news hasn't released that because the PD hasn't. Cover up to prevent someone from speaking to the media before they are interviewed? Really? I'll bet none of you believe in conspiracy theories either. People have rights in this country... except cops.

Posted by: BCGuy

August 2, 2011 at 4 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

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Well, well. Now one police unit will "investigate" another police unit. Isn't that a sweetheart deal.
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It's like having lawyers on an ethics board.
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Posted by: cdawg

August 2, 2011 at 4:28 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

It would seem that after taking a couple of slashes to the arms, it would be harder to disarm someone with a knife, especially if the cut is deep.

Posted by: JimM

August 2, 2011 at 4:28 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

We all know that the Officer will be in the right after the investigation....why even have one?

Posted by: Apbacker

August 2, 2011 at 4:37 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

cdawg, it has always been standard protocol that another department investigates any police involved incident, be it a shooting or something as simple as an accident. Who do you recommend complete the investigation?

Posted by: nwlocal

August 2, 2011 at 6:51 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

"Police Shoot Rogers Man"

"By Bob Caudle"

"Posted: October 5, 2010 at 5:42 a.m. "

Procedural speaking, a few excerpts:

"ROGERS — Rogers police shot a man Monday after he pointed a firearm at officers, a department spokesman said."

"Police officers responded to 1007 S. 26th St. at 2:35 p.m. in reference to a person threatening to commit suicide, according to information from the department."

"When the officers arrived, they were confronted by an armed man in front of his home, police said. The man raised a firearm and pointed it in the direction of an officer, said Jerri Baughman, acting public information officer for the Rogers Police Department."

"The officer then fired his weapon, police said. A neighbor said he heard three shots."

"Baughman would not say who was shot, whether the person died, how many shots were fired, what officer was involved or if the Rogers department is conducting an internal investigation."

"Baughman read a prepared statement during a news conference Monday, then refused to answer questions, referring reporters to the Arkansas State Police, which is investigating the shooting."

"However, Bill Sadler, spokesman for Arkansas State Police in Little Rock, said that's not the way the system works."

"'The role of the Arkansas State Police is to investigate and provide information to the Benton County prosecuting attorney for him to make a decision on whether the use of force was justified,' Sadler said Monday evening. 'Any information that happened leading up to the event, before the Arkansas State Police were called, is a decision made by the Rogers Police Department.'"

"Van Stone, prosecuting attorney, said Monday evening he's awaiting information about the investigation."

"'We can't comment until the investigation is complete,' Stone said."

Posted by: Hammer1

August 2, 2011 at 8:52 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

It sounded to me like the woman was on drugs and might have wanted to get killed by the cops. If she wasn't on drugs and when you have a weapon in your hand and the police arive the smartest thing would be to drop your weapon and not look threatening to the police. I do not think anyone in the general public would want to go up against this woman if she had a knife and was charging at you. I think it was suicide what she did and now the police reputation is tarnished. Be thankful we have people with badges and guns that are trying to protect the public from raging mad people with weapons. It seems like more people are getting short tempers with the rising temperatures and should slow down and think before they act out so they do not put themselves at risk for going to jail or getting shot. This day and age you do not know who is packing a gun or a knife and has a short fuse to go with it.

Posted by: oldrustynut

August 3, 2011 at 4:35 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Everyone hates the cops, until they need one.

Posted by: Mom2Gar

August 3, 2011 at 9:31 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Have u ever watched "Cops" or a show like it? The women r the most vicious, it's incredible what a 100lb woman can do. This idea that "it's a women" doesn't float.

Posted by: thegees1989

August 3, 2011 at 10:16 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

I like the post "everyone hates cops, until they need one...." it is SOOOOO TRUE!!!!!

Posted by: braxton1

August 3, 2011 at 10:25 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

For all u ppl out there that think it's Ok to take a knife to a cop, wise up, it's not. U could die. Just sayin.

Posted by: thegees1989

August 3, 2011 at 10:25 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Everyone always thinks the cops are the bad guys. Until they need a cop to put his/her life on the line for them--then they expect the cop to die protecting them. Just don't kill the bad guy protecting them. I would like to know how many of the people commenting have any police training or have actually spent time responding to this type of incident??? Yeah, that is what I thought......
And No, I'm not a cop. I just know I wasn't there and the cops are not always wrong. Maybe Rogers should let the people commenting do the job of a police officer for a week or two.

Posted by: Ivotedoyou

August 3, 2011 at 12:47 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

A very efficient way to go is "Suicide by Cop". Just point a stick at one, that's all it takes.

Posted by: Oldearkie

August 3, 2011 at 1:24 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

If anybody needs a county law enforcement officer, please feel free to contact a 'public servant'' like Benton County Deputy Winn:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKEpp3...

Posted by: Hammer1

August 3, 2011 at 2:35 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

None of you know the real story so how bout not putting her down the cops were wrong and she was a sweet girl who wouldn't hurt a fly I know her personally she was my best friend and is not a bad person so shut your mouths thanks have respect for her boyfriend as well as me we can see all that you post and it pretty much sucks...Tiff n Mike and heard from witness was not justifiable...shoot 3 times seems like excessive force..

Posted by: tiffnstuff

August 3, 2011 at 2:47 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Regardless of what is learned about this particular incident, there seems to be a pattern of excessive force. There was the retarded man lying on the ground, didn't follow directions well. There was the restaurant owner, intoxicated and befuddled in his own house. There was the homeless man. There was the would-be bank robber, his car boxed in by other cars but shot in the head anyway. Those are the ones I remember.
The cops aren't always wrong. Neither are they always right.

Posted by: Coralie

August 3, 2011 at 3 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Excessive Force or Protect and Serve?

Courtesy of Settlements and Verdicts:

"Arkansas State Police"

"Bentonville, AR May-03-07 Larry Norman, a former state trooper pleaded guilty to a negligent homicide charge over the fatal shooting of a mentally disabled man mistaken for a fugitive in 2006. Joseph Erin Hamley was mistaken to be a suspected escapee near the Benton-Washington county line, when Norman and several other officers were responded to the call. Officers expecting to find the felon, found Hamley, who refused officers' commands to keep his hands out of his pockets, which his mother later described as a nervous habit. Police reports show that Hamley was lying on his back and Norman fired after being on the scene less than a minute, after ignoring a command to block traffic and driving to the scene at 100 mph with his radio on. Norman pleaded guilty, claiming he mistook Hamley's actions as a threat. He faces up to a year in county jail and a fine of $1,000 over the misdemeanor charge. The Arkansas State Police gave a $1 million settlement check to the family of Joseph Erin Hamley for his wrongful death."

And, courtesy of Fox News:

BENTONVILLE, Ark.— A former state trooper was sentenced Thursday to 90 days in jail for shooting to death an unarmed, mentally disabled man he mistook for a fugitive."

"Larry Norman pleaded guilty in May to misdemeanor negligent homicide and admitted he mistakenly shot Joseph Erin Hamley, 21, on March 7, 2006, as Norman lay on the ground."

"Norman, who could have received up to a year, was ordered to jail immediately, but will be freed for 10 days beginning Friday to get his affairs in order. He also must serve a year of probation and 30 days of community service at a school for disabled people and was fined $1,000."

"Norman and other officers mistook Hamley for Adam Lee Leadford, an escaped inmate from Michigan."

"State police granted Norman medical retirement last year due to what his attorney called an 'enormous psychological overlay' from the shooting."

Posted by: Hammer1

August 3, 2011 at 3:21 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Or just shot her in leg or arm.

Posted by: rgbynum

August 3, 2011 at 5:38 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

I honestly didn't know there was this many uneducated people that would comment on a story. I hope if you ever need a cop that they are too busy to respond! I mean, if they are expected to TAKE SOME SLASHING as part of their job... ARE YOU SERIOUS???? That is one of the stupidest things I have EVER heard!

Posted by: shorenuff

August 3, 2011 at 11:38 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

I think part of the problem is that when they are target practicing they aim for the torso and the head since this is the easiest and best way to stop the bad guys. I don't think they get points for shooting in the arms or the legs. Maybe they should change the target areas during training and then that would be the reflex action when they have to pull their service weapon. Knife in hand -hit them in the knee cap. Gun in hand - hit them in the head or torso. Makes perfect since to me. I imagine you can have targets made for the different encounters with armed individuals that do not want to put their weapons down.

Posted by: oldrustynut

August 4, 2011 at 4:48 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

I know the young lady that was murdered. She had personal issues in her life yes but ! She was 5'7 120 lbs. sokin wet !!!!!!! ANY MAN could have takin the alleged knife from her at any time !!! There needs to be some kind of changes in the deadly force deal .I mean yes if a 6' 220 man is comming at you with a knife you might feel thats a threat BUT COME ON a 5'7 120 lb. women ..

Posted by: arkyinbfe

August 4, 2011 at 6:01 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

The article speaks of 'officers (plural) answering a 911 call....

My question is this... How many 'officers' were there, and how many does it take to disarm a woman?

Our policemen and women face danger every minute they are called police. It's understandable to be cautious with every situation. She could have had a gun, and a knife.... did she?

Posted by: ceelou

August 4, 2011 at 7:46 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

How about a valor award for this brave officer protecting the public.

Posted by: Tankersley101

August 4, 2011 at 5:54 p.m. ( | suggest removal )