Remembering Roger’s Rec Hall the way it was
Several years ago my husband, Marshall Carlisle, wrote a letter (which was printed) about the life of Roger Koetter and a bit of history about Roger’s Rec Hall. It reminded me of my first visit to the Rec over 30 years ago.
My sister, Liz, who was an excellent pool player, was visiting and asked me if there was a real pool hall in town — not a cheesy quarter table. I said yes, but women don’t generally go in there. It wasn’t forbidden or anything like that. Heck, there wasn’t even a women’s restroom.
This did not deter her one iota. So, in we go. You could have heard a pin drop. We played and she beat me like a yard dog. I declared defeat and went to pay. Roger shook his head and did this hand motion that meant “no charge.” From then on and until Roger passed away, I never had to pay.
I did have to pay for the beer.
A women’s restroom was eventually installed and women became a common and welcome sight. I don’t know if anyone else got the deal I got, but as long as Roger was there I never paid a dime.
Roger was a kind, gentle giant. I feel honored and grateful to have known him. He is missed by so many of us. Yes, I still visit the Rec from time to time. It’s changed a lot, but you (or at least, I) can feel his presence.
JOY LONG
Fayetteville
No confusion here
with gender identity
I totally agree with the comments in the letter written by Bill Davis of Rogers re: the everlasting use of “you guys” these days. When I have replied, quite clearly and distinctly, “I am NOT a guy,” it is invariably met with a blank and vapid stare. Mr. Davis’ sentences were, “Hi, guys. My name is so-and-so and I will be taking care of you tonight. Can I start you guys off with something to drink?” Then, “OK, guys, here are your drinks and your order should be out shortly.” Next, “Can I get you guys anything else?”
Why isn’t it possible for restaurant owners, for instance, to firmly instruct their waitpeople that none of the “guys” or “you guys” should be used in these sentences?
Just eliminate them and you will note that the comments or questions make perfect sense without them. It is offensive to women to be constantly referred to as guys! It has occurred to me that one should always speak with the manager. Comments to the waitpeople have no effect!
OK, I am 86 and picky, and also a big fan of your grammar maven. Re: the last sentence, it is certainly possible that the waitperson “can” get you something else.
The question should be, “May I get you anything else?” I am disheartened by the fact that the majority of people these days just don’t seem to care at all about the proper use of the language.
Of course, it is impossible to change the mindset of so many people.
A habit like that discussed above is all too firmly ingrained.
However, if managers were to institute a specific rule re: this matter and impose penalties if there were infractions, it might help.
BETTY J. BROKAW
Bentonville