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Resistance To Bentonville Millage Remains

Posted: September 8, 2013 at 5 a.m.

Students transition between classes on Thursday, Aug. 22, 2013, at Bentonville High School. The school started the new school year Monday with more than 4,200 students, a number that's expected to increase to 5,000 within three years.

Opponents of the proposed millage increase to build a second high school give different reasons for their intention to vote against it.

At A Glance

Early Voting

Bentonville’s second high school millage election will be Sept. 17. Early voting starts Tuesday and will be available 8 a.m. to 4:30 p.m. weekdays at the Benton County Clerk’s Office at the following locations:

• 215 E. Central Ave. in Bentonville

• 300 W. Poplar St. in Rogers

• 707 S. Lincoln St. in Siloam Springs

Early voting also will be available 8 a.m. to 4 p.m. Tuesday through Friday at these sites:

• Riordan Hall, 3 Riordan Road in Bella Vista

• Centerton Firehouse, 755 W. Centerton Blvd. in Centerton

Source: Staff report

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Voteing NO

Posted by: DNC

September 8, 2013 at 6:38 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Just out of curiosity, why?

Posted by: relao

September 8, 2013 at 8:15 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

I would say no too, since we already have the highest millage rate in the state.

Posted by: Nivlag

September 8, 2013 at 10:29 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

I just received an email from someone who knows I live in the Bentonville School District. Here is what he said.
The future of public education is not brick and mortar facilities. The future is online classes. Christy Linn of Archipelagos Study Island said potential growth area for digital education is blended learning, where students attend traditional school on a part time basis and complete their classes on line. This model is seen as a way for school districts to curb overcrowding, and avoid the costly process of building new schools or expanding existing campuses. According to education researcher Ambient Insight. Forty-eight states and the district of Columbia have virtual schools, while 29 states offer full- time classes online. If this millage passes will we be building a school we will close in the next 5-10 years because students will be taking classes on line. This is to big of a risk with tax payers money. I'm sure that if this happens we could turn the new high school into an elementary school but I'm not sure how a first grader will utilize an 8.8 million dollar practice facility and a future 15 million dollar football stadium.

Posted by: brightpath

September 8, 2013 at 11:39 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

We're voting against it because we have no children, and don't really care about yours.

Posted by: CaptainQuint

September 8, 2013 at 12:22 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Online classes have only proven to be a failure with kids dropping out of them and returning to schools quickly. It is foolish to deny the hard facts that our school is currently overcrowded, hoping for a future technology that may not pan out. Perhaps by the time a third high school is needed, this technology can be considered, but it is too premature. Have you also put off buying a car because someone sent you an email saying flying cars are just around the corner?

Posted by: emilyjeanne11210939

September 8, 2013 at 1:53 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Emily the flying car argument is the dumbest I've seen on these boards in a while. It's not like online classes started last week. Colleges have been giving online degrees for years. I took online classes for a degree nearly 10 years ago. It's only a matter of time before this trickles down to K-12. I'm not advocating we start having kindergarteners start taking online courses but for juniors-seniors at a minimum, this should be a no-brainer. There are certainly classes that require hands-on work such as chemistry labs, etc that don't lend themselves to remote classes but but there should be no reason someone needs to sit in a classroom 5 hours a week to learn algebra or do word processing in a computer class.

Posted by: AutopilotAR

September 8, 2013 at 2:04 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Emily online classes are here now. Arkansas State code 6-15-509 approved April 22nd 2013 gives home schooled students a right to pursue sports and other interscholastic activities at their local public school if they score at a certain level and take at least one class at the local school. If I was a parent of a student athlete I would certainly take advantage of this law. This law right now could solve are over crowding problem if the parents new this law exists and took advantage of the law.

Posted by: brightpath

September 8, 2013 at 4:14 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

NO! NO! NO! But the arrogant sob's will build it anyway like the did in Fayettenam, so what is the damned difference?

Posted by: Moneymyst

September 8, 2013 at 4:48 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Yes, some homeschool school students take online courses, and yet all the data proves that for the majority of students in this country online high schools are failures. Yes, perhaps in ten years this will change and more students will take classes online, but we are talking about today. The high school is overcrowded. That is a fact. You can't bury your head in the sand and hope it will all go away.

Posted by: emilyjeanne11210939

September 8, 2013 at 7:29 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Emily share some data instead of making suppositions

Posted by: AutopilotAR

September 8, 2013 at 8:06 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Why do they need to raise taxes to do this. don’t they get more revenue every time a $3000 property is turned into a $300,000 house. I don’t quite know how the mileage works but in my book that’s a 100% increase on propriety tax, this dose not include all the impact fees, extra sales tax and state sales tax.
What I want to know where is all the extra money going now?

Posted by: rob575757

September 8, 2013 at 8:45 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

"Fayettenam" has neither a new high school nor a new field MM.

Posted by: AngieM

September 8, 2013 at 10:05 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

You're right Angie. They spent $95mil and to "rebuild" their old school. Details, details.

Posted by: AutopilotAR

September 9, 2013 at 8:07 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

relao......because we are as property owners, taxed enough. The only way elected officials, both school board members and County Quorum Court knows how to get more money is to hit the property owner. It is time to stop! Do you know how many retired people there are in Benton County live on a fixed income? If you live long enough you will be there and then you will understand.

Lets try a usurer tax instead or go to medal building on the same property the high school is!

I await your response.

Posted by: DNC

September 9, 2013 at 8:14 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Something worth checking into for retirees who are screaming about being on a fixed income. Go down to the Assessor's office and read the billboard they have down there. If you are over the age of 65, you can fill out a form that will freeze your property tax rates. My Dad asked what impact the school millage would that impact his rate and they said it wouldn't have an impact, it would stay the same. .

If we're wrong about this, please let me know.

Posted by: GreatGoogleyMoogley

September 9, 2013 at 9:14 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

WHAT HAS THE BENTONVILLE SCHOOL BOARD DONE WITH ALL OF THE MONEY OVER THE YEARS??? Property values have soared, pasture land replaced with 3000+ SF Homes, tax revenue through the roof...Oh well...the TAXPAYER will bail them out AGAIN!

Posted by: hammond

September 9, 2013 at 9:55 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

The anti-second high school crowd paid $176 for a "no ticky no washy" sign. A deal that bad takes effort.

I think that speaks volumes.

Posted by: new423a

September 9, 2013 at 10:07 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

the Bella vista folks have voted, pleaded and lobbied for the bella Vista bypass for 40 years...when they build that, then maybe they
will vote for a new school. first things first.

Posted by: ladyLiberty

September 9, 2013 at 11:36 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

AutoPilot - First of all, it's $51 million, this information is readily available with a simple google search, as you say, "Details, details." Second of all, I have no dog in this fight. No students at either BHS or FHS, I don't live in either town, nor am I an alumni of either school. I HAVE however been in FHS pre-renovation. To say it was a lawsuit waiting to happen is an understatement. The people of Fayetteville should consider themselves lucky that the remodel (since a 2nd hs was voted down) happened before someone was hurt and the school system was sued. I have never been in a more unsafe school.

Posted by: AngieM

September 9, 2013 at 12:06 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

It's the value of the property that is frozen for people over 65. The millage will affect those people, but they will be paying the mills based on the frozen property value. So if a higher millage is approved, they will save some money, but their taxes will go up.

Posted by: bvobserver

September 9, 2013 at 2:30 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

RE "No ticky, no washy"
Oh, no, no-- there's nothing racist about Teabaggers. No, Sir. Not a bit racist.

Posted by: AlphaCat

September 9, 2013 at 6:59 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Why does the Bentonville School district cater to 5 other cities (Springdale, Rogers, Centerton, Bella Vista, Highfill)? Pea Ridge is smaller than Centerton and they have their OWN school district. Northwest Arkansas is going to keep growing, its time to put schools in the cities that these students LIVE in.

Posted by: amused

September 10, 2013 at 8:15 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

I agree with amused, its time to put a school in Centerton, and pay back the property tax money these people have paid to the Bentonville School District for many years. You couldn't ask for a better place to live than the City of Centerton, The people are friendly and they are family driven. The people ban together to support the children in their town and help the children of Bentonville with open arms, its not the one horse town that people think it is, its the fastest growing community in Arkansas.

Posted by: Navychief

September 11, 2013 at 6:49 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Oh did I mention there is 17 schools in the City of Bentonville, and two outside the city limits that are in the Bentonville School District, spread the wealth a little. That means children that live in other towns that are part of the Bentonville School District get bused to Bentonville schools at the cost to the tax payer. Just a thought.

Posted by: Navychief

September 11, 2013 at 6:56 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

You might want to research on where the proposed High School will be located.
It's not in Bentonville.

Posted by: P5harri

September 11, 2013 at 8:02 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Wow... I do not live in Bentonville district, nor do I have school age children. However, I have looked at the data and I support doing what is RIGHT for the next generation. Selfish people will reap the benefits.

Posted by: proud

September 11, 2013 at 10:50 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Wait til you get your Obamacare bill on top of this. Its gonna be fun. Stupid people, never saw a tax you didn't like.

Posted by: Moneymyst

September 11, 2013 at 4:28 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

I too agree with Amused, I have said it a hundred times. It's time that Centerton and Bella Vista start carrying their own weight and build their own school districts. And it's not just 5 other cities --Springdale, Rogers, Centerton, Bella Vista, Highfill-- add in Cave Springs and Hiwasee as well.
Centerton could very well school all of Centerton, Cave Springs, Highfill, and Hiwasee children with ease.

Posted by: spinsister

September 12, 2013 at 7:19 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Spinster why would Centerton want to start a consolidated district when they are already part of one? makes no sense to me..!!!

Posted by: billn5sg

September 12, 2013 at 11:58 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

It's awesome to be new to an area and see that the focus of all citizens is the education of our youth in the best circumstances possible (sarcasm). Geez, this is sad. You can't take your money with you, but you will leave this community behind for many generations.

Posted by: proud

September 12, 2013 at 12:17 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Home school them or private school them. Government schools produce idiots like you proud.

Posted by: Moneymyst

September 12, 2013 at 4:51 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Have you received your mailer from Steve Carter? I have. I agree with Steve Carter but Travis Riggs should have kept his big mouth shut. I wonder how many pats on the back he is getting from the vote yes Sept. 17th committee right now?

Posted by: brightpath

September 12, 2013 at 8:40 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Steve Carter took him less than a week to flop, probably by the 17th he will be for the kids.

He should get a no ticky no washy sign and stand on the road side with The rest of that group. Great combo

Bottom line another school is needed and action is needed now. Debating this & coming up with last minute ideas, isn't solving the issue.

Posted by: new423a

September 13, 2013 at 6:15 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

If you guys have not figured it out yet, the State of Arkansas has said "we have a over crowding problem", the current high school is on probation due to this problem of overcrowding, so if we don't pass this millage as a community, then the state can come in and put up a square building most likely in Centerton anyways. Is this what you want a square building with no facilities. Let start thinking about investing in our children and their education instead of ourselves. My children are grown and I support this tax increase.

Posted by: Navychief

September 13, 2013 at 6:26 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Use the money to fix the schools we already have. Get the kids and teachers out of trailers and move the 9th grade back to expanded Junior Highs. Let's benefit the most kids with the money we will be asked to pay. Vote no until the most sensible solution is proposed to the voters.

Posted by: Soxwin05

September 13, 2013 at 7:01 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

My son graduated from BHS in 2012 so I have no vested interest in the election except:

1. People before we moved here in 2005 had the courage to vote "yes" to build the facilities he used. It's my time to step up for the future.
2. Those who vote no may get what they want. NavyChief above is right. The state is eager to help the school system solve this problem and we won't get a vote and we will still have to pay for it.
3. Many don't realize that 9th graders take classes with upper grades. My son as a 9th grader took 3 classes with students from other grades. Splitting the 9th grades back into Jr High schools would have reduced his class options.
4. Travis was right. If you are going to whine be part of the solution, not part of the problem. Run to be a decision maker. Others on the current board did.
5. The state determines the school district. In the age of consolidation the Bentonville school district will not shrink. The other towns in our district presently don't have the option of starting their own system.
6. No other option except a 2nd large high school will accommodate the growth and provide a comparable education. Visit the High School and imagine it with 800 more students by 2016.

We are 10 years behind in building a 2nd High School.

Posted by: tuck5900

September 13, 2013 at 4:28 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

NO is the way to go. No new taxes!

Posted by: Moneymyst

September 14, 2013 at 3:16 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Money, are you paying a lot of property taxes?
Or are you just a No! sort of boy?

Posted by: Coralie

September 14, 2013 at 3:34 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Moneymyst is a troll. He makes "yes" and "no" irrelevant.

Posted by: AlphaCat

September 14, 2013 at 5:59 p.m. ( | suggest removal )