State’s abortion bans have sides lining up artillery for legal fight
Posted: March 10, 2013 at 5:32 a.m.
Arkansas’ new ban on most abortions after 12 weeks is considered the strictest in the nation, and national groups are lining up to either sue or help the state defend the ban.
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Hope these folks get their money's worth after they see the cost of our tax dollars just to get a few extra votes in the next election. Have they done anything positive in this session of the legislature besides dwell on this one issue?
Posted by: Clarksville
March 10, 2013 at 10:05 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
this is a special intrest group robbing us of our elected officials time and our tax dollars.
most of the folks in arkansas would NEVER ever vote for this ban. only the extreme right,. an evangical lawyer ? (what an oxymoron! no such thing)
if the goal of our GOP was to save lives, then they would encourage restrictions to guns for domestic abuse households.
i do not think this law is really about saving lives. it is to control the people of arkansas. more laws and restrictions and self righteous condemnation.
Please don't call this conservative politics .
that is an insult to to fiscal responsibility.
Posted by: ladyLiberty
March 10, 2013 at 10:41 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
It could be easily argued that government's first job is to protect the lives of it's citizens. Seems as if passing a law that saves lives fits well with this responsibility.
As to other laws or restrictions that would do more good (see ladyLiberty's post); according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, 595 people per year (on average) die from gunshot wounds during domestic violence scenarios in the US. On the other hand there are well over 1,000,000 pre born babies killed each year in this country.
Most bang for the taxpayer buck? Do the math.
Posted by: ReasonFirst
March 10, 2013 at 4:05 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ReasonF: "It could be easily argued that government's first job is to protect the lives of it's citizens.">>
But womb riders are not citizens. In order to get your argument off the ground you would need to make the argument that they are "citizens." And that's in no way "easily argued." No society in the world has granted rights of citizenship to a fetus (and certainly not the US). The Bible was even less lenient in that they didn't count the newly born as a person until 30 days: http://fayfreethinkers.com/tracts/fet...
Rea: "595 people per year (on average) die from gunshot wounds during domestic violence scenarios in the US.">>
But we hardly need people to actually die from their gun shot wounds in order to be wounded, maimed and even just terrorized by a spouse (with guns or not). While about:
"...three people are killed by a gun per hour and almost seven people are shot every 60 minutes...
...59,208 people [were wounded by guns] in 2011."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01...
Point being, the number shot vastly exceeds the number that actually die.
Rea: "well over 1,000,000 pre born babies...">>
Why the discomfort with actually using accurate terminology here: fetus, zygote? For some reason anti-choicers find it necessary to emotionally load language up with labeling what the fetus may someday be, rather than by correctly referring to it as what it actually is.
That's not by accident. If you subtract the emotionally laced language, there's not much left to their arguments against women having the right to control their bodies.
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Posted by: fayfreethinker
March 10, 2013 at 5:14 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ladyLiberty,
I don't think you would like the results of an Arkansas plebiscite on the issue at hand. Some of the "extreme" left in an around downtown Fayetteville can go on and on about "arguments against women having the right to control their bodies", but more people in Arkansas see the issue as ending the senseless killing unborn babies for nothing more than irresponsibility.
Posted by: Tankersley101
March 11, 2013 at 7:24 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
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