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Mr. Thompson...where to begin...

You said "The GOP carried the white vote by 20 points in the last presidential election. It's no longer within the bounds of the conceivably possible to suppress enough blacks, Latinos, Asians and whomever else to keep winning as the 'whites only party'. All this bill will do is remind every person casting a ballot that the Republican Party is the party of suspicion."

Should we "suspect" that the veteran Ohio poll worker, Melowese Richardson, who admitted that she voted twice in the election and is being investigated for possibly voting an additional 4 times might possibly be a criminal? Should her additional 5 votes be counted because she is black?

What about the 99% of the vote in more than 100 precincts in Cuyahoga County, Ohio that went for Obama. Not even third world dictators get 99% of the vote.

What about the Democrat National Convention in Charlotte, North Carolina that required photo ID for admission? Was anyone disenfranchised there?

Let me pose this question. What if the Republican party received 99% of the vote instead. Or a Republican poll worker (who should have obviously known better) voted for Romney an admitted minimum of twice or possibly 6 times. Tell me truthfully what you would say about that?

Explain to me how people can get to retail stores to spend their welfare money, or for that matter get to the polls to vote, but can't get to a DMV to obtain a photo ID.

Talk about a "party of suspicion". That describes the Democrat party precisely.

Does a liberal know how to tell the truth, or even think objectively? I'm not asking you the question Mr. Thompson, that's obvious to see.

Posted by: patrioteer

February 24, 2013 at 12:04 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

patrioteer...where to begin...

RE "Should we "suspect" that the veteran Ohio poll worker, Melowese Richardson,...might possibly be a criminal?"
Suspicion is only the beginning. We should find out the truth and act accordingly. The same applies to voter ID laws. Of course, this irrelevancy fails to respond to the writer's question about the apparent racial imbalance of the Republican Party.

RE "What about the 99% of the vote in more than 100 precincts in Cuyahoga County, Ohio that went for Obama. Not even third world dictators get 99% of the vote."
Are you saying that over 40% of those votes were fraudulent? Did that even happen? No.
http://www.cleveland.com/datacentral/...
Oh, no-- you forgot Philadelphia!
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-5...

RE "What about the Democrat National Convention in Charlotte, North Carolina that required photo ID for admission? Was anyone disenfranchised there?"
No. There is a difference between asking for ID at a private function and requiring ID in order to exercise a right. (Didn't the RNC require ID? No wonder there were so few people of color there.)

RE "What if the Republican party received 99% of the vote instead."
Regardless of the outcome of a national election (and virtually every local and state election), the incidence of voter fraud is negligible. Here's an example:
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011...

RE "Or a Republican poll worker (who should have obviously known better) voted for Romney an admitted minimum of twice or possibly 6 times."
Fraud by candidates, election commissions and poll workers is by far the greatest part of what little vote fraud there is, and it is entirely different from voter fraud.

RE "Explain to me how people can get to retail stores to spend their welfare money"
Apparently you suspect that people who lack voter ID are on welfare. You are a one-man "party of suspicion".

RE "Does a liberal know how to tell the truth, or even think objectively?"
Of course. Do you know how to recognize objectivity or the truth?

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A patrioteer is no more a patriot than a musketeer is a musket.

Posted by: AlphaCat

February 24, 2013 at 4:42 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Good analysis Alpha.

There was a 118% voter turnout in parts of Benton County a few years ago.

Personally, I have no problem with voter ID in order to exercise a right to vote. However, the state should bear all the expense of providing that ID.

My polling places in Chickenopolis have routinely demanded voter ID each time I've voted during the past 9 years.

Posted by: cdawg

February 24, 2013 at 5:42 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Thompson writes "It’s no longer within the bounds of the conceivably possible to suppress enough blacks, Latinos, Asians and whomever else to keep winning as the “whites only” party."

The "concievably possible" route to unregulated voter suppression may be just around the corner, depending upon how the SCOTUS rules on section five of the Voting Rights Act.

Posted by: FrankLloydLeft

February 24, 2013 at 8:46 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

We can't have those pesky voting rules, unless you actually have a functioning brain, like a conservative.

Alphakitty, your response to the lady who voted at least twice and maybe 6 times was regarding racial equality in the Republican party. Should we force minorities to join the party by giving them free stuff like you do? Maybe we could call it Republi-fare, or Republi-phones. That's kind of catchy, don't you think?

How is it possible for there to be NO votes (zero, nada) for Romney in 9 in precincts in one Ohio county? Without Cuyahoga county Romney wins Ohio, this per the link you provided. How is that possible? Are you admitting Obama is equivalent to a third world dictator? No one accidentally marked the wrong name or left any hanging chad? Really? Not even one?

One citizen, one vote. That's one of the freedoms our forefathers fought and died to protect. But you libs don't care as long as your man gets elected. You think it's ok to vote as many times as you want. Maybe conservatives are missing the boat on that one.

Regarding whether people on welfare lack voter ID, how is that possible? How do you do business in America without ID? Most utility companies require ID. If you have an ID to participate in everyday functions, you also have an ID to vote. What part of that confuses you? You just don't want to address the problem. What is more sacrosanct to democracy in America than the right and obligation to vote?

And that garbage you spewed about the convention requiring ID, that really took some deep thought on your part. Really...a private function? So only the upper echelon of the Democrat party could attend? What a bunch of elitists! And then you have the nerve to say "(Didn't the RNC require ID? No wonder there were so few people of color there.) That's really a hoot! How did so many people of color get into the DNC if they didn't have the required ID??? What a load of bull dung you just shoveled!

Liberals are such a bunch of hypocrites, and alphakitty you lead the pack.

Posted by: patrioteer

February 25, 2013 at 4:03 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Don't badmouth Kitty, patrioteer, I excel at that and if you hurt his liberial feelings and I might have to take it easy on him. Besides that, his cat owns him and is likely smarter.

Posted by: JailBird

February 25, 2013 at 4:38 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Patrioteer, please make distinction between ID, photo ID, or a specific type of photo ID that must be purchased in a particular place which may be at some distance or open only during typical working hours.
>>> .
Obviously, the poorest minority people from say rural Mississippi or New Orleans were not the ones who attended the DNC.

Posted by: Coralie

February 25, 2013 at 5:25 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

RE "Alphakitty, your response to the lady who voted at least twice and maybe 6 times was regarding racial equality in the Republican party."
No, my response to that was to say that investigation and action are needed. The quote you cited, then responded to with the irrelevant matter of the poll worker, was in regard to the racial balance of the Republican Party. Voter ID laws do not address the issue of dishonest poll workers.

RE "How is it possible for there to be NO votes (zero, nada) for Romney in 9 in precincts in one Ohio county?"
Read the article I linked to. At least you've abandoned the "99% of the vote in more than 100 precincts in Cuyahoga County" lie.

RE "Are you admitting Obama is equivalent to a third world dictator?"
Not at all. Apparently he was just overwhelmingly popular in a few urban precincts. There were three precincts in Oklahoma with zero votes for Romney-- and four with zero votes for Obama: http://quibblingpotatoes.blogspot.com...
I guess you'll have to admit that Oklahoma has marginally exquisite taste in third-world dictators. Of course, it's a Republican state.

RE "You think it's ok to vote as many times as you want."
I certainly never said that; I said the opposite. Must be your lack of comprehension getting in the way again.

RE "Maybe conservatives are missing the boat on that one."
Probably not.

RE "Really...a private function?"
Yes. The political party organizations are private, not public, entities. The conventions were held on private, not public, property.

RE "So only the upper echelon of the Democrat party could attend?"
No, but only a finite number of people could attend, as any fire marshal can tell you. I have a couple of friends-- just regular folks-- who attended the DNC.

RE "How did so many people of color get into the DNC if they didn't have the required ID???"
They probably had the required ID-- ticket, invitation, driver's license, whatever. How did so few of them get into the RNC? Are you implying that people of color can't get ID that's proper enough to suit the Republican Party?

Also, you failed to address the fact that the RNC also required ID for admission.

RE "What a load of bull dung you just shoveled!"
Given your reply, it would be more accurate to say that I just stirred it up a bit.

RE "Liberals are such a bunch of hypocrites, and alphakitty you lead the pack."
You flatter me-- really. That can only be a compliment, appearing as it does at the end of that post..

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A patrioteer is no more a patriot than a musketeer is a musket.

Posted by: AlphaCat

February 25, 2013 at 5:38 p.m. ( | suggest removal )