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Political Decisions Can Cause Long-Term Damage

Posted: February 24, 2013 at 2:20 a.m.

Collateral damage has become part of our everyday vocabulary, and we accept it as an unfortunate part of our actions, particularly in war. When it strikes home, as in the recent series of mass shootings, we are in disbelief and ask, “What’s going on? How could this happen? Who or what is to blame?” We are all to blame for not understanding what the policymakers in Washington are doing or not doing.

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Opinion, Pages 11 on 02/24/2013

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The saddest part about a column such as this is that it demonstrates that the only concern that folks such as this author have for mental illness is how to exploit it. Ed Stacy can lie and demagogue all he wants about funding being cut for mental health and special education, but the truth is that no amount of money in the world can compensate for the stigma suffered by people who truly suffer from mental illness. Instead of engaging in a serious conversation about mental health, he feels it more important to exploit it as a reason to trample on the civil rights of those who wish to defend themselves. At least he admits that there is not an easy solution, but that is small comfort when the current administration and their fellow statists act as if the solution is to disarm people.

Posted by: IrishMensa

February 24, 2013 at 11:17 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Stacey's article is 500% better than the editorial that appeared the same day on the same general topic.
As for Irish Mensa, I can't figure out what he is saying.

Posted by: Coralie

February 25, 2013 at 1:17 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Another key reason for the decrease in institutional beds for the mentally ill beginning in the 1970's was the consumer movement for community services rather than secure facilities. Better medications were available to help those who could benefit live in the community rather than having to be locked up. Paradoxically, now a large proportion of Medicaid funding for children's mental health goes to inpatient and residential facilities, rather than for outpatient services.

Posted by: Dellmann

February 25, 2013 at 1:58 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Speaking of mental illness, IrishDensa has stopped by with another episode of his conservative Tourette's and the ongoing delusion that people will believe something simply because he says it. If Mr. Stacy is lying, perhaps ID will provide some evidence by beating his head against the wall of his cell in Morse code.

At least ID has finally, for once, at last shown sympathy for a segment of society, even if it is only sympathy for himself. After all, IrishDensa has shown himself to be a selfish and unwell man.

RE "no amount of money in the world can compensate for the stigma suffered by people who truly suffer from mental illness."
That's not what money would be spent for; the money would go to treating the illness. Should we just not even try?

RE "the current administration and their fellow statists act as if the solution is to disarm people."
Correction: the NRA and other gun nuts act as if the solution is to disarm people. The claim is itself crazy. No measure of gun control seriously proposed so far can seriously be construed as disarming the populace. It is the case, however, that some people should not be allowed to arm themselves.

Posted by: AlphaCat

February 25, 2013 at 2:41 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Now Irish is in jail, along with Woody & Me. Commit yourself Kitty and we will have a foursome for bridge. Woops, sorry, bridge is over your head, Old Maid perhaps.

Posted by: JailBird

February 25, 2013 at 4:47 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

As I posted on other thread, international comparisons indicate that the U.S. has the highest prevalence of mental illness of the countries compared.
Interesting that we have, along with the most mental illness, the biggest arsenal in the world both on the global and domestic levels.

Posted by: Coralie

February 25, 2013 at 5:11 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

RE "Woops, sorry, bridge is over your head"
It is a fact that I have never been able to play that particular card game. I have enough trouble playing spades or hearts.

However, bridge is over your head, too, when you live under one.

Posted by: AlphaCat

February 25, 2013 at 5:49 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

How can I be in jail and live under a bridge at the same time?

Posted by: JailBird

February 25, 2013 at 5:57 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

I set you up for that one, Dumb Cat.

Posted by: JailBird

February 25, 2013 at 7:02 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

So which came first, the world's highest prevalence of mental illness or the world's biggest arsenals?

Posted by: Coralie

February 26, 2013 at 5:17 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

>>no amount of money in the world can compensate for the stigma suffered by people who truly suffer from mental illness<

I have a step brother who is handicapped with autism and for previous periods of times experienced numerous phobias. Treatment did convert him into an individual who can hold a menial job (earn) and do semi independent living. It required money to do that.

There were many other such people in his training group at the state run facility. That took spending money to accomplish. It required the state to educate and train people with skills to do the work of therapy.
Housing was also an expense.

Irish is completely wrong about exploitation and stigmas. Perhaps Irish is projecting his/her own views about the mentally handicapped or mentally ill.
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Somehow sick, twisted people like Irish can gleefully approve F-35 planes costing hundreds of millions each but when it comes to treating mentally ill and salvaging lives they smirk and belittle while cheering on the next Star Wars defense waste scheme.
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Posted by: cdawg

February 26, 2013 at 5:49 p.m. ( | suggest removal )