COMMENTARY: Allowing Guns In Our Churches Is Wrong-Headed Response

Posted: February 3, 2013 at 1:55 a.m.

One of the first contributions of the new Republicandominated Arkansas Legislature apparently will be to open the doors of our churches to gun-toting worshippers. That is surely the ultimate oxymoron.

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Opinion, Pages 12 on 02/03/2013

There's just something so darn seductive about imagining blowing away someone we percieve as existentially needful of being blown away.

Particulary with Christianity being under attack from so many quarters, the Christian soldier of today needs to be ready for mayhem at any moment.

Posted by: FrankLloydLeft

February 3, 2013 at 3:04 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

"The Rev. James McCaulley says the woman was killed Friday by a man who first fired shots through the windows of the Juniata Valley Gospel Church hall."
So somebody carrying inside the church (and it wasn't a regular service) could have stopped a person shooting through the windows?
"The shooter was stopped when church members John Bohstedt, Robert Birdwell, Arthur Bolds, and Terry Uselton and visitor Jamie Parkey restrained him."
"Regardless of security precautions, church-related violence has been on the rise for the past decade. According to Carl Chinn, a former Focus on the Family building engineer who tracks church crime and violence statistics, 115 attacks—63 of which resulted in at least one fatality—have occurred so far in 2012, up from 108 attacks last year and just 10 such attacks a decade ago.
List of triggers for such attacks:

Posted by: Coralie

February 3, 2013 at 3:54 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Coralie, I know of a few churches that open carry even during their services. They are in Arkansas. I guess that a preacher packing heat in the pulpit sorta enforces the sermon.

I don't think I would ever carry in a worship service. If someone gets me in church, well, I'm closer to the throne. If I go down in a "blaze of glory" they might make a Saint out of me. Patron of what, I don't know.

Posted by: JailBird

February 3, 2013 at 4:33 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

I am suggesting that the first focus should be WHY are these incidents happening, and why are they increasing so much over the past decade?
As in so many issues, people tend to look at the surface and not at causes.
Second, I tried to indicate that it's a completely false argument that people need to be armed in order to stop such incidents from happening or to deal with them as they are happening.

Posted by: Coralie

February 4, 2013 at 12:18 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

FrankLL: "...just something so darn seductive about imagining blowing away someone we percieve as existentially needful of being blown away.">>


Posted by: fayfreethinker

February 4, 2013 at 12:57 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Don't know Coralie, Freeby accidently ran into something that I hadn't thought about. What if we make a law requireing all persons carring guns to keep their bullet in their pocket like Andy made Barn do.

Posted by: JailBird

February 4, 2013 at 4 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

A shepherd must tend to his flock and at times fight off the wolves.

Posted by: BCGuy

February 4, 2013 at 4:58 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Sometimes the wolves among the sheep is the shepherd.

Posted by: JailBird

February 4, 2013 at 7:52 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

The biggest effect of this law will surely mean fewer people attending church which is exactly what Satan wants.

Posted by: rk1985

February 5, 2013 at 8:38 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

We may already be in the tribulation, so things will just get worse. "Satan knows his time is short". But Christ will prevail.

Posted by: mycent

February 5, 2013 at 9:12 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Well, I don't know about Satan, but if people are going to start carrying guns everywhere, I am likely to stay home more.
Or move back to Minnesota, where they have stricter gun laws.

Posted by: Coralie

February 5, 2013 at 1:36 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

I don't think stricter gun laws will make any difference, Coralie. Statistics have shown that. My husband is from Bloomington MN. Too cold up there!

Posted by: mycent

February 5, 2013 at 1:46 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Minnesota is well below the national average in violent crime rate, especially murder and manslaughter.
Maybe the winter winds cool down hot tempers.
I grew up in Minneapolis and loved the sledding, ice skating, snow-building, and other winter sports.

Posted by: Coralie

February 5, 2013 at 3:01 p.m. ( | suggest removal )