Agency revisits alien issues

Advocate: 3 state projects can aid immigrants’ children

Posted: July 12, 2012 at 5:17 a.m.

University of Arkansas at Fayetteville professor Bill Schwab speaks Wednesday during the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families panel discussion on “Critical Generation: Improving the Well-Being of Children of Immigrants in Arkansas” inside the Springdale Public Schools central office.

A nonprofit advocacy group has for some time favored a state-level “DREAM” Act, expanded pre-kindergarten programs and extension of ARKids First health insurance, an official said Wednesday.

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Northwest Arkansas, Pages 7 on 07/12/2012

We have got to learn to say no. If you are so bound to help those who come to this country illegally then go to Mexico and teach them the ways of our country down there. Take your private monies and spend it on them.

Why should we educate illegal foreigners and daily turn our back on US children who are born and raised in this country by parents who are citizens of this United States?

We are losing America by big hearted Americans.

Posted by: MANofFEWwords

July 12, 2012 at 8:30 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

@ Hummmm Unless you are native American, we were all children of immigrants at some point. It takes courage to go to a foreign land and try to make a better life for your family. These people with this kind of courage are the kind of people that forged our country. Yes the immigrants should learn our culture and language and what is a better or moral answer than educating and giving their children a chance for gainful employment. Without the hope for a better life after they get their education, what else do these kids have to turn to besides crime? As for the arguments that the illegals are costing us money, the facts just dont support the claim. Yes they do keep lower income jobs wages lower by 1%, but besides that the data has shown they actual add to the tax base of a city more than they take away. I absolutely agree we need to do a better job of educating our own children, but it is not the fault of children of illegals. "We are losing America by big hearted Americans" I assume by this quote you mean that we are giving away our our country by trying to take care of everyone in it including the children of illegals. Well besides the moral arguments, there is a value argument. Do we get a good return on our investment? These students are here and are not going anywhere else, so we can educate them or not. "If you think education is expensive, try ignorance." Derek Bok, former president of Harvard.

Posted by: mlmhoon02020818

July 12, 2012 at 9:38 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

I don't believe they are big-hearted. They know exactly what they are doing to this country.

Posted by: doug10181011

July 12, 2012 at 10:07 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Derek Bok statement is self-serving! The problem from accepting knowledge or leadership from professor's or presidents of higher education institutes is their learning of the world is from a book and not first hand, on the street experience. Nothing wrong from reading it from someone’s else writing but nothing educates one better than real experience. You and the professors of world need to step outside smell the roses and get pricked by a thorn of real world issues a couple of times.

Give up on this argument, the only argument you and big hearted citizens who are giving away this country seem to have is by saying "we were all children of immigrants at some point." Really...brilliant, mimhoon, brilliant. Read that in a book?

Again take your education and money to Mexico and teach the children of that country how to survive within their own borders.

You wrote, “As for the arguments that the illegals are costing us money, the facts just don’t support the claim." Hummm what about all the medical cost we have to absorbed?

Posted by: MANofFEWwords

July 12, 2012 at 10:30 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Alcohol and marijuana are used differently, and have different physiological effects. Smokers-- except for serious stoners-- generally don't go out in public to get stoned; they stay at home. Drinkers frequently gather in public to drink, so are more likely to be in traffic. Alcohol is a depressant, particularly of the inhibitions. Drinkers at all levels of impairment are likely to believe that are perfectly capable of driving and will act on that belief. Smokers, on the other hand, tend to mellow out and stay where they are, unless they have lacked the forethought to stock up on nacho-cheese Doritos and peanut M&Ms.

Abuse of any drug is a problem. However, while there is a genetic predisposition to alcohol addiction, none has been shown for marijuana. People with addictive psychological tendencies are probably going to become addicted to whatever is available. Marijuana is, overall, less dangerous to the public than alcohol is. Considering the clogging of the justice system with and waste of jail space on harmless dopers, and the impediments to the industrial growing of hemp-- a valuable manufacturing and biomass product-- as a result of laws against marijuana, there are even more good reasons to legalize marijuana.

Posted by: AlphaCat

July 12, 2012 at 2:53 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Since marijuana use tends to decrease the libido in men (well, in women, too), there aren't likely to be a lot of stoner rapists prowling about. There are probably not too many of them lurking about, either. Having their way with a carton of Blue Bunny Rocky Road? Maybe.

Posted by: AlphaCat

July 12, 2012 at 4:13 p.m. ( | suggest removal )


Congratulations on your new regimen. I've stopped drinking soda and only rarely drink tea or alcohol. Fortunately, the water around here is pretty good, and it's a lot cheaper than other beverages.

RE "it comes back to my point: the ILLEGALITY of drugs, and thus the character of persons who use them anyway."
You could say the same thing about the character of people who drink and drive, whether or not they get caught: it's the illegality of driving drunk. DUI is just one of the extents to which use of alcohol is just as illegal as the use of illegal drugs. As a general rule, driving drunk is also more dangerous to the public than smoking marijuana, which is important as regards the first purpose of law, which is (or should be) to protect the public.

I'm more concerned about the character of society and the way it goes about punishing people far out of proportion to any negative impact their behavior has on society. I'm not suggesting that people use illegal drugs; I'm suggesting that marijuana no longer be an illegal drug.

Posted by: AlphaCat

July 12, 2012 at 4:33 p.m. ( | suggest removal )